Present: Catya, Dave, Zach, Rosa, Judy, Stephanie, Dwight, Kai, Sarah
Florreich, Greg Hellyer, Jean, Rick, Gabe, Ken, Kim, Roxanne, Christie, Lisa
Wolf, Keith, Virginia Fry, Delia Windwalker, Jim Cook & AdaGrace Windwalker
Cook, Lynn Thomas & her daughter, Ben Blum
Location: Parmenter
Facilitator: Rosa
Notes: Stephanie
Action Items: Catya and Sarah
Process Observer/Time Keeper: Judy
Decisions
| # | Team | Open Date | Update | Person | Description |
| 1 | Coordinating | 02/03/02 | All | Write up Personal Team/Responsibility for MC ( like Cat's example) | |
| 2 | Coordinating | 11/18/01 | Catya | Parents review ... (see cat?) - details: "what we want from a baby sitter in terms of style" Write up for handout | |
| 3 | Coordinating | 11/18/01 | Catya | Get a new nametag for Dwight, Sarah, Lisa Wolf, Greg, Ben Blum | |
| 4 | Coordinating | Kim | Babysitting for the facil workshop | ||
| 5 | Coordinating | 02/17/02 | Rosa | Find a place for a retreat | |
| 6 | Coordinating | 12/2/2001 | 02/17/02 | Rosa | Draft a document of continuing associate and membership requirements. WiIl send a more formal proposal |
| 7 | Coordinating | 02/17/02 | San | Write up more thorough description of schedule coordinator | |
| 8 | Coordinating | 12/16/01 | 02/17/02 | San | San will resend process workshop information to the list - holding off until after the workshop |
| 9 | Coordinating | 01/20/02 | San | Follow up ongoing participation | |
| 10 | Coordinating | 02/17/02 | San | Add implementation notes to mentor system | |
| 11 | Coordinating | 01/20/02 | Steph | Start a discussion on list how to deal with someone stating intention to become an equity member, and group does not come to consensus | |
| 12 | Finance | Dwight | Get list of local banks that do constructions loans | ||
| 13 | Finance | 12/02/01 | Dwight | Talk to metro west about mortgage pre-approval stuff - contact plus list of info they need. | |
| 14 | Finance | 11/18/01 | Dwight/Catya | Follow up with Kelly on missing back invoices and expenses - everything since November | |
| 15 | Finance | 11/04/01 | Kai | Come up with a 'possible sources of money' sort of survey / worksheet for folks to work though. | |
| 16 | LandSite | 01/06/02 | Dave | Combine Christie's notes and daves notes from 12/20 meeting and post them as a full summary | |
| 17 | LandSite | 01/06/02 | John | Call chris about putting together coldcall stuff | |
| 18 | LandSite | 06/17/01 | Roxanne | Contact Jason re: Energy Star 10/21 reassigned to roxanne 11/18 Sent email, haven't heard back 12/02 - jason is not longer working for Energy star 2/17 - playing phone tag wit hthe new person | |
| 18a | LandSite | 2/17/02 | San | Write up mentor policy. | |
| 18b | LandSite | 2/17/02 | Dwight | Send info on conference calls to John - Steph is available exept 9-1030 and 1-2 | |
| 18c | LandSite | 2/17/02 | John | Ask Chris to recheck Stow in general to see if we should add it to the town list | |
| 18d | LandSite | 2/17/02 | John | Ask Chris what the factors are that he's using to evaluate a piece of land - If we see a piece that we want to prescreen, what can we do? | |
| 18e | LandSite | 2/17/02 | John / Roxanne | Figure out what towns we have zoning info for and get it for other towns we're looking at. - Make sure we have it on hand for all the towns we are considering | |
| 19 | Marketing | Catya | Order one box of each book | ||
| 20 | Marketing | 11/04/01 | Dave | Get back in touch with NECN 11/18/01 - Get off your duff, you loser. | |
| 21 | Marketing | 02/03/02 | Kim/Cat | Bagels for facilitation workshop | |
| 22 | Marketing | 08/19/01 | Rosa | Make a note in the decision log about becoming an associate and and equity member on the same day. | |
| 23 | Professionals | 01/20/02 | Catya | Rework Contract formal report monthly, conference call | |
| 24 | Professionals | 01/20/02 | Dwight/Roxanne | Research other Project Managers in case need arises - talk to Kai | |
| 25 | Secretary | 12/02/01 | San | Add names of previous members to members database | |
| 26 | Secretary | 08/05/01 | 09/16/01 | Steph | Steph will work on protocol for distributing documents. 9/16 still working on it. 11/18 Not done yet |
| 27 | Secretary | 01/20/02 | Steph | Rework pet policy discussion | |
| 28 | Website | All | Update cell numbers on the site, and then Kim get them to Jeanette | ||
| 29 | Website | 11/18/01 | Catya | Put the mp3's from the conference up on the web. 12/16 - cat will put in links to Ken's site | |
| 30 | Website | Kai | 2 new faq questions SVS connection and child friendliness. | ||
| 30a | Website | 2/17/02 | Catya | Add Delia and Ben to the discussion list. | |
| 31 | Ongoing | 10/07/01 | 11/04/01 | All | ALL should send information to Cat asap about the various email lists you are on so she can send the announcements to them. Deadline: monday dec 10th |
| 32 | Ongoing | 09/16/01 | All | All will reread the information about the Process Workshops that was sent to the mosaic-commons email list by San. | |
| 33 | Ongoing | 11/04/01 | Catya | Coordinate babysitting for future meetings | |
| 34 | Ongoing | 01/20/02 | John | Parmenter Key Dwight's backup | |
| 35 | Ongoing | 06/03/01 | 09/16/01 | Kai | Write up examples of the items we need to have included in the Operating Agreement for our group to review at the next meeting. 6/17/01 - still in the works, need to slate a time to do this, it'll take half a meeting to work out the details 08/05/01 - First drafts presented and discussed - still going on. 11/18 - some to discuss to day, more to do |
| 36 | Ongoing | 10/21/01 | Ken | Schedule borrowing video projector for each meeting. 11/18 - Reassigned to ken | |
| 37 | Ongoing | 07/15/01 | 02/03/02 | Kim | 2/3/02 501(c)3 is not appropriate for our group , a lot of work for no guarantees. Has found an experience attorney Matt Keifer, has extensive beackground in cohousing.Spoke with many people from different cohousing groups about how to approach affordability. |
| 38 | Ongoing | 01/20/02 | Kim | Call Jeanette to confirm | |
| Ongoing | 02/03/02 | Kim | Follow up calls for intro meeting | ||
| 40 | Ongoing | 06/03/01 | 08/19/01 | Lisa | Research affordability facilitation groups 6/17/01 - most organizations don't seem to want to allocate funds until you're ready to break ground 8/19 Ongoing 9/16 Ongoing 10/21 In a crunch schoolwise, slowing down til end of november. |
| 41 | Ongoing | 11/04/01 | Lisa | Research article that Kai found about Gay elders and housing discrimination, with a view toward marketing. | |
| 42 | Ongoing | 06/17/01 | 09/16/01 | San | Go through the discussion list subscriptions and do pruning where necessary. |
| 43 | Ongoing | 08/05/01 | 09/16/01 | Steph | Put together a 'members handbook' for new people 10/21 Talk to christie and judy about helping out. |
| 44 | Ongoing | 06/03/01 | 10/07/01 | Steph | Get the old documents from Lisa 6/17/01 - Steph wrote email today, waiting to hear back. 08/05/2001 - Steph will call 9/16 cat will ask Andey |
Agenda
1. Opening Activity
Do you have any siblings? If so, how many, what kind, where do you fit in?
2. Review of Colored Cards and
Ground Rules
Rosa did so.
3. Announcements and Approval
of Agenda
Agenda Approved
4. Review and Approve Minutes
from Previous Meetings
· From #4 need to correct the dates to reflect January instead of June
· Greg volunteered to do research on the Green Issues for the Hot Topics.
This was not reflected in the previous minutes.
5. Clarifying Responsibilities
· Who is in charge of contract issues with Cohousing Resources?
· Cat's feeling is roughly that John should talk to Chris about the things
that Chris deals with and that Cat will talk to Kelly about the things that
Kelly deals with. Kelly is the one that deals with contracts so Cat will deal
with Kelly around contracts and the other issues Kelly deals with.
6. Proposal regarding unit prices, bucket #2 money
· Kai and Dwight brought forth this issue for discussion - they had previously posted it to the list for review.
· One issue is not addressed which is depending on how the land purchase works and how the plan works, there is a point at which we will need to show a certain level of pre-sales (down payment + mortgage pre-approval). We may need to reach that level by any means necessary if we are faced with time limits. We may need to force people to accelerate their payments to reach their 5%. There is little language about that in the proposal right now.
· Dwight read the proposal.
The finance committee has been asked to come up with a proposal about what happens when after securing land, we need to raise the projected unit prices. The following issues in particular arise:Scenario I:
Members who had previously made their minimum 5% contribution but who have not made any additional Bucket #2 or #3 investments, are now not at the threshold any more.Proposal:
Such members will be given a reasonable amount of time to contribute the additional funds necessary to reach the 5% minimum again, with a minimum monthly contribution equal to what their original schedule was.Scenario II:
Members who had previously made their minimum 5% contribution and have made additional Bucket #2 or #3 investments since then.Proposal:
Such members will be given a choice: (i) they can opt to redesignate (part of) their Bucket #2 or #3 investments as minimum equity contributions; (ii) they can opt to contribute additional funds to raise their Bucket #1 contribution to the new 5% minimum, with a minimum monthly contribution equal to what their original schedule was. The second option may be advantageous because the Bucket #2 and #3 contributions will have accrued interest and will continue to do so, while equity contributions (past the early incentives) receive no return.Scenario III:
Members who are still making monthly payments on a schedule to reach their minimum 5% contribution.Proposal:
Such members will be given a choice: (i) they can opt to add extra payments at the end of their current schedule, continuing contributions until they reach the new 5% minimum, (ii) they can, in consultation with the finance committee, recompute their payment level so as to reach the new 5% minimum in the same timeframe as previously planned.Scenario IV:
New members.Proposal:
Depending on the financial situation of the group, we may decide to make an upfront lump sum payment of the 5% minimum downpayment the default policy for new members. This would still be subject to special arrangements in consultation with the finance committee. This might also be modulated by whatever other affordability measures we implement in the future.In all four scenarios, we will continue to offer the possibility of alternative arrangements for families with temporary financial difficulties, to be implemented in consultation with the finance committee.
· Cat suggested a rephrasing
regarding people who are having difficulty with finances - she suggested we
may want to remove the temporary or change it.
· Cat thinks that the #4 proposal sounds pretty scary for some people
- She thinks we may want to hold off on this and simply phrase it as "we
may require". We need to be clear in the policy that we won't randomly
decide to require 5% up front until the point of the construction loan.
· Kai responds that we may need to accelerate payments to reach 5% at
some point when we know more about the construction loan requirements.
· It makes sense to be specific about the criteria for speeding up payments.
· Steph made a comment and asked a question about scenario 2: It seems
to more fair to require people to either move money back from bucket 2 into
bucket 1 OR make a lump sum. Sarah also clarified that you would not lose your
interest that have already accrued from the money in bucket #2
· Kai thinks that the way it is proposed is best because there as an
incentive to get people to put money into the project.
· The rate of return from money in bucket 2 is 15% APR currently. This
goes down to 12.5% at zoning approval.
· Cat still feels like we should build a new payment schedule based on
the new numbers.
· Kai responded by saying that the proposal says that we will not require
higher monthly payments from people who are already on a schedule. If the group
has a need to raise more money to reach pre-sales amounts, we may consider raising
payments at that time.
· What happens with new members at the point at which we get a new budget?
This needs to be addressed. The issue is whether to put current members onto
a new schedule in the absence of a pre-sales requirement.
· Kai and Dwight will bring this back to the next meeting with some revisions
for more discussion.
7. Action Item Czar
· I.E. Action Item Manager (as preferred by Sarah)
· One of the open issues of having Sarah taking over the action items
during the meetings is how would she do it? She would take notes by hand and
update it that night - up on the website for Monday.
· We would need to be able to export the information to put it in the
minutes as well.
· It would be nice for people to be able to go in and update their tasks
directly - Sarah is looking into appropriate software for this.
· Reminder system: How will people remain accountable if the action items
are being dealt with outside of the meetings? Sarah will make sure to bring
it up in the meetings.
· Sarah would like an address for Action Item Manager @ mosaiccommons.org
(a forward account).
· Sarah will keep track of the action items during the meeting.
· She will take on reminding people of their items every week.
· She will find appropriate software.
· Christie asks - what medium will she remind people? Answer - in whatever
medium people prefer.
· Cat: Would this software be installed on the mosaic site? Yes - Dwight
and Cat need to talk about this.
8. Team Reports and Action Items
Land/Site
· Stow property is still open, but the Acton property is no longer available.
It's unclear what happened with the Acton property, but one offer was put in
by New View, the cohousing community that is adjacent to the Acton property.
· The Stow property has 3 different zonings: Residential, Commercial,
Industrial. Chris is researching what this means for the # of units.
· Dwight will send John the details on how to set up the conference calls.
· Steph is willing to be on the conference calls to take notes if
· Cat wanted to be clear that she wants to avoid the situation that Dave
experienced - the contact person being in regular contact and knowing what's
going on is not enough - we need to know what is going on as a group.
· John has expressed that he communicates best in person, but we need
him to communicate more regularly to the group in email.
· Kim wants a list of questions to ask realtors, land holders, etc. in
order to evaluate a property - would like to get this from Chris (i.e. zoning,
etc.). This is so we can jump on properties that we hear about and find out
more about before we forward them to Chris.
· Dwight responds that we did develop such a list and should forward
that to John and Kim. (Steph should do)
· Steph points out that we've agreed that when we have a proposal down
on the property, we need to put our energy (and Chris') energy into that property
and not searching for others.
· Judy questions whether we should actually just be focusing on one property
at a time, when it feels like we may be losing time if we lose that property.
· We might want to ask Chris about whether this is still the approach
we should continue with.
· Roxanne asks if we know what Chris will need before he is ready to
put in the proposal? When will it be communicated to us whether the proposal
will or won't go through? Answer: ASAP.
· Rick says he understood that we were ready to make a proposal on the
Stow Property when we met with Chris two weeks ago - Steph agrees. John needs
to clarify with Chris what happened.
· Steph points out that we need to decide whether to rehire Chris.
· Cat asks whether we decided to put Stow on the list? We did not decide
to put Stow on the list because the zoning for this current piece of land seemed
to be an exception and that we could do cohousing on it. (Kai clarified).
· Should we take the step of adding Stow to the list of towns so that
Chris can pursue the zoning information and other properties in Stow? Yes
· Re: Chris' contract - Chris said he would have a proposal to the group
about his contract if neither Stow or Acton properties worked out. Before we
can rehire them we need to hear about the contract proposal, Kai says. Dwight
says that he asked Chris about this (subcontracting with Nexum) and the answer
was that this subcontracting would come out of Chris' pocket so it would not
affect our contract with him.
· Virginia asked if the group is committed enough to Stow to not have
Chris work with Nexum to look at other properties:
· Cat proposed that we re-contract with Cohousing Resources for March
contingent upon receipt of the revised contract that has already been verbally
agreed upon. - Agreed by Consensus
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9. Process Check-in
· Judy appreciated Dwight's process observation during the last discussion
· Lisa W commented on how she's observed that we do a very good job as
a group being very respectful of each other.
10. Team Reports and Action Items
Affordability
Chris did send Kim his Affordability Proposal from Deerborne Commons - 10 ways
to approach affordability.
Coordinating
The babysitter should have some cell phone #s of members so that she can call
if there are last minute problems
Finance
· Mortgage pre-approval issue: Dwight is waiting for the merger/sale
of Metrowest Bank by Bank North before he approaches them about this.
· Christie asked if we have agreed to do the development loans through
Metrowest - answer is No, we haven't. We bank with them and they are one of
the local banks that does have a history of providing construction loans - so
we are building a relationship with them in case we want to approach them for
this construction loan.
· Dwight will look into other financial institutions that provide construction
loans.
· It turns out that we do need to file taxes this year and we will need
an accountant to do this: Dwight plans to use Church Street Associates in Hopkinton.
This will cost between $75-$200. Approved.
· Cat would like reimbursement for software - approved.
· Cat would like to propose that we purchase a box each of the Cohousing
Resources Book as well as the green Cohousing Book. Approved. (Dwight reminded
Cat that we need an invoice).
Marketing/Membership
· No report - good meeting today
· One family at the intro meeting might be interested in assisting with
financing as well as potentially becoming associate members.
· We might want to think about offering babysitting for intro meetings
- this could be a member coming early to watch the kids, or paying a babysitter.
Professionals
· Kim spoke with Kate McCabe about her possibly doing a consulting relationship
with Matt Keifer. She said she'd love to meet with us - her hourly rate is $210,
but she could package it as a flat rate. She would be happy to work with us.
· People should try to arrive by 11:30 for the Sunday workshop.
11. Hot Topics: Spiritual and
Political Issues
· Lisa presented brief information about this topic from her research,
but we did not discuss it or break out into groups for lack of time. Will be
put on the next agenda.
· Lisa was also given more resources for further research - bylaws, posting
a question to the cohousing-l list, cohousing books.
· Clarified why we are doing this now.
· Kim had a concern that we have brought this up only to table it several
times, and that this is frustrating.
12. Future Agenda Items and Dates
· Sarah needs to leave next meeting by 5:30, so the AIM issues need to
come up early.
· On March 3rd, only San will be here.
· On March 17th intro meeting, Dwight will run it if Catya cannot make
it.
· Next week's facilitation workshop with Jerry: please arrive between
11:30 and 11:45 a.m. so that we can begin the workshop at Noon promptly.
· Cat probed to determine whether people might want to do a Passover
Seder together (March 27th is the first Seder).
· Kim is proposing a women's-only bonding date for Mosaic women and suggests
that the men might want to do the same thing.
· We might want to think about a Spring Retreat. If folks have ideas
for a location, send them to Rosa.
13. Review of Meeting and Closing