Minutes of Mosaic Commons
General Meeting
June 2, 2002, 3:30-6:30pm
| Present: | Steph, Dwight, Christie, Sarah, Roxanne, Judy, John, Greg, Ben, Janice, Catya, Rosa, Kim, Rick, Gabe, Marty, Sophia, Jim, Abby, Brandon, Virginia, Joan, Eileen, Andre |
| Location: | Parmenter, Wayland |
| Facilitator: | Rosa and Judy |
| Notes: | Christie |
| Action Items: | Catya |
| Process Observer: | Kim |
| Timekeeper | Kim |
Decision from homeport meeting--Dave will work with John as liaison to Chris to complement his efforts.
| # | Team | Person | Open Date | Description |
| 1 | Affordability | Kim | 4/7/2002 | Did Martha's Vineyard use a 40b for development? Ask john abrams. Can we get clarification of how the Lottery works with a 40b. Chris suggests talking to a woman :) Someone on the process committee. - 5/19 - Talked to John Abrams, yes they did use 40B. Lottery process was complicated |
| 2 | Affordability | Kim and Rosa | 5/19/2002 | Kim and Rosa to attend 40B seminar on 6/5/02 6/2/02 - RSVP is all set |
| 3 | Coordinating | Catya | 5/5/2002 | List of teams, etc - 5/19 - in process |
| 4 | Coordinating | Catya | 4/21/2002 | Contact Joyce about consensus cards 5/19 - Sent email to Joyce 06/02 - Sent follow-up email |
| 5 | Coordinating | Catya, San, Rosa | 6/2/2002 | Figure out better time allotment for land/site issues |
| 6 | Coordinating | Catya, San, Rosa | 6/2/2002 | Make a proposal for how teams report back to the group - summary after each meeting to the general list? - how to get those into minutes, etc? |
| 7 | Coordinating | Christie | 5/19/2002 | Write up proposed guidelines on solicitiation |
| 8 | Coordinating | Dwight | 5/19/2002 | Research on handling solicitation from outside our community |
| 9 | Coordinating | Lisa W. | 4/7/2002 | Talk to communication person about getting details about a talk. (3 hrs?) 5/19 - Spoke to her, she will get info and dates to us so we can do a workshop by September |
| 10 | Coordinating | Roxanne | 6/2/2002 | Post done items to the list as part of the regular reports |
| 11 | Coordinating | San | 1/20/2002 | Follow up ongoing participation Should work with draft Rosa sent to list on 2/26 |
| 12 | Coordinating | San | 2/17/2002 | Write up more thorough description of schedule coordinator |
| 13 | Coordinating | San | 2/17/2002 | Add implementation notes to mentor system |
| 14 | Coordinating | Steph | 1/20/2002 | Start a discussion on list how to deal with someone stating intention to become an equity member, and group does not come to consensus |
| 15 | Facilitation | Kim | 6/2/2002 | Start a discussion on list of traditions / ceremonies / rituals for the group |
| 16 | Finance | Catya | 4/21/2002 | Sliding Scale revisions |
| 17 | Finance | Dwight | 12/2/2001 | Talk to metro west about mortgage pre-approval stuff - contact plus list of info they need. 2/28 - Contacted Mark Lampson at BankNorth. He has agreed to come in and present qualification and contact info at our 3/17 meeting, at 3:30, for about 15 minutes. 5/5: 6/2 at 3:30 This will happen 6/2 at 3:30 |
| 18 | Finance | Kai | 11/4/2001 | Come up with a 'possible sources of money' sort of survey / worksheet for folks to work though. |
| 19 | Finance | Kai | 2/17/2002 | Rewrite proposal about when budget increases, how to handle 5% equity payments |
| 20 | LandSite | Catya | 6/2/2002 | Monday night at sarah's |
| 21 | LandSite | Jim | 6/2/2002 | Followup on the '20 unit' number that has been bandied about for the limitation on number of units on Lincoln, and find out what the true limitation is (if there is one) |
| 22 | LandSite | Jim, Greg | 6/2/2002 | Set up Aquapoint meeting |
| 23 | LandSite | John | 6/2/2002 | Chris shoud speak with the owner of the lincoln property while he's out here as well. |
| 24 | LandSite | John | 6/2/2002 | Chris should meet wit hthe town planner of lincoln to figure out unit cost. |
| 25 | LandSite | John | 6/2/2002 | Poll for Saturday |
| 26 | LandSite | John | 2/17/2002 | Ask Chris what the factors are that he's using to evaluate a piece of land - If we see a piece that we want to prescreen, what can we do? |
| 27 | LandSite | John / Roxanne | 2/17/2002 | Figure out what towns we have zoning info for and get it for other towns we're looking at. - Make sure we have it on hand for all the towns we are considering 4/5 - have for Stow, Acton, Concord, need Maynard & possibly Hopkinton 5/5: Have lincoln, still need others. 5/19 - Got Maynard zoning docs. |
| 28 | LandSite | Kim | 6/2/2002 | Minutes from the last conference call |
| 29 | LandSite | Kim | 6/2/2002 | Childcare for Monday night, Saturday? |
| 30 | LandSite | Marty | 6/2/2002 | Find out what existing 40b applications are and approved densities - karen might know? - talk to dave and Jim, and roxanne has access to current standards, etc. |
| 31 | LandSite | Steph | 2/17/2002 | Find the list of questions in the minutes asking about land and get it to John |
| 32 | Marketing/ Membership | Ben B. | 4/7/2002 | Come up with a 'word' that covers Associates and Members. |
| 33 | Marketing/ Membership | Cerie | 5/5/2002 | Help with June Intro meeting |
| 34 | Marketing/ Membership | Christie | 6/2/2002 | Video possibilities? Talk to Virginia and Catya |
| 35 | Marketing/ Membership | Dwight | 3/17/2002 | propose mentoring be required for associates 5/5: in process |
| 36 | Marketing/ Membership | Judy | 3/17/2002 | Database
of mentors/mentees on website 4/5 - Provided update to list, along with list of mentors/mentees. Needs help creating database. |
| 37 | Marketing/ Membership | Kim | 4/21/2002 | Social
at Drumlin Farm 5/19 - in process |
| 38 | Marketing/ Membership | Rosa | 8/19/2001 | Make a note in the decision log about becoming an associate and and equity member on the same day. |
| 39 | Professionals | Catya | 5/5/2002 | Get with Cohousing Resources on number of days available for work in April and May - 5/19 - wrote Kelly |
| 40 | Secretary | Catya | 6/2/2002 | Get the latest dates and events up on the website - work with Christie to make this a smoother process |
| 41 | Secretary | Christie | 6/2/2002 | Nice binder for associate and equity agreeements - talk to Catya |
| 42 | Secretary | Dave, Steph | 6/2/2002 | Minutes from the homeport meeting for associates and equity members |
| 43 | Secretary | Judy | 6/2/2002 | Whos-who contact list? |
| 44 | Secretary | San | 12/2/2001 | Add names of previous members to members database |
| 45 | Secretary | Steph | 8/5/2001 | Steph
will work on protocol for distributing documents. 9/16 still working on it. 11/18 Not done yet |
| 46 | Secretary | Steph | 1/20/2002 | Rework
pet policy discussion 3/1 - working on it, should have something for list in a few days |
| 47 | Website | Catya | 6/2/2002 | Add Abby & Jim to members list, Add Joan and Andre to discussion list |
| 48 | Website | Catya | 6/2/2002 | Add Sarah to the Finance list |
| 49 | Website | Catya | 11/18/2001 | Put the
mp3's from the conference up on the web. 12/16 - cat will put in links to Ken's site 2/28 - Need to recheck the URL with Ken, the one I have doesn't work. 4/7 - URL still not working |
| 50 | Website | Kai | 2 new
faq questions SVS connection and child friendliness. 6/2/02 - Both items sent to the list |
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| 51 | LandSite | John | 5/19/2002 | Organize meetings of newly expanded LandSite team |
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Ongoing Items:
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| 52 | Coordinating | Greg | 3/3/2002 | bring bag of paper goods to meeting |
| 53 | Coordinating | John | 1/20/2002 | Parmenter Key Dwight's the backup |
| 54 | Coordinating | Kim | 11/4/2001 | Coordinate babysitting for future meetings |
| 55 | Coordinating | Kim | 1/20/2002 | Call Jeanette to confirm |
| 56 | Coordinating | San | 6/17/2001 | Go through the discussion list subscriptions and do pruning where necessary. |
| 57 | Finance | All | 6/2/2002 | Check your most recent finance statement |
| 58 | Finance | Kim | 7/15/2001 | 2/3/02
501(c)3 is not appropriate for our group , a lot of work for no guarantees.
Has found an experience attorney Matt Keifer, has extensive beackground
in cohousing.Spoke with many people from different cohousing groups about
how to approach affordability. 2/28 - now working with attorney Kate McCabe (who worked w/ Matt Keifer), and pursuing other avenues to aproach affordable housing like possible tax abatement, habitat for humanity, among others |
| 59 | Finance | Lisa L | 6/3/2001 | Research
affordability facilitation groups 6/17/01 - most organizations don't seem to want to allocate funds until you're ready to break ground 8/19 Ongoing 9/16 Ongoing 10/21 In a crunch schoolwise, slowing down til end of november. |
| 60 | Marketing/ Membership | Christie/Ben | 3/3/2002 | Create a Mosaic Commons song book |
| 61 | Marketing/ Membership | Everyone | 9/16/2001 | All will reread the information about the Process Workshops that was sent to the mosaic-commons email list by San. |
| 62 | Marketing/ Membership | Everyone | 10/7/2001 | ALL should send information to Cat asap about the various email lists you are on so she can send the announcements to them. Deadline: monday dec 10th |
| 63 | Marketing/ Membership | Judy | 3/3/2002 | track marketing literature, places to advertise, etc. - needs to pass to someone else. |
| 64 | Marketing/ Membership | Kai | 6/3/2001 | Write up examples of the items we need to have included in the Operating Agreement for our group to review at the next meeting. 6/17/01 - still in the works, need to slate a time to do this, it'll take half a meeting to work out the details 08/05/01 - First drafts presented and discussed - still going on. 11/18 - some to discuss to day, more to do |
| 65 | Marketing/ Membership | Kim | 2/3/2002 | Follow up calls for intro meeting |
| 66 | Marketing/ Membership | Lisa | 11/4/2001 | Research article that Kai found about Gay elders and housing discrimination, with a view toward marketing. |
| 67 | Marketing/ Membership | Steph | 8/5/2001 | Put together a 'members handbook' for new people 10/21 Talk to christie and judy about helping out. |
Mark Lampson discussed general mortgage process and loan options. Estimated closing costs $1800.00. Discussed a group discount for Mosaic. Information we need in order to prequalify: 2 years of W-2s, bank statements, and pay stubs. "Bridge" loans may assist homeowners in buying a new home when they are selling their current home but havent yet sold it.
The agenda was approved. Jim and Abby announced their intention to become Associate members (cheers!) and signed the agreement.
On behalf of the Facilitation Cmte Judy and Kim brought up the idea of having rituals for our group.
Catin favor of rituals; but we need to balance that with not scaring new folks away.
RickAn introductory ceremony is a ritual; there are words we speak at that time to clarify why we are doing what we are doing and to honor what we have already done.
Kimtalked about the idea of using silence at the beginning of each meeting; for me its important that we have formal words that we all say and all know, that live in all of us.
BenWe can say something about the light not being extinguished at the end of the meeting when we blow the candle out.
Dwightlikes the way we struggle for the words when we light our candle; when things are written down and said over and over they can get stale and dead.
Rosathinks Kim is saying everyone doesnt know what the candle means, not that we need to say the same words over and over.
Gregagrees with Dwight; perhaps we could agree on the concepts, and people can express in their own words.
Catyawe could also have birthday celebrations.
RosaSuggests we take this conversation to email. People should brainstorm ideas about rituals they would like to have.
JaniceWe could take turns lighting the candle and then have a few moments of silence after that.
Kimwill start the discussion on line.
Refers to what we call Equity members and Associates. Ben shared his thoughts to open the discussion.
RosaWe need a term that includes both Equity and Associate members for practical value within the group so we can be clear about who can and should be participating in decisions.
StephWhy we cant use the term "members?"
DwightThe LLC is a form of a partnership and carries legal meanings.
CatyaWe need to clarify the distinction between formal and informal language; this is important for our informal day to day language.
Roxanne--Supports "signed-on folks."
RosaSuggests "Commoners" for prospectives, associates, and equity members.
"Signed-on folks" to refer to Associates and Equity members.
CatyaThe term "commoners" implies theres a lord somewhere and I dont like that.
What about "signers?"
RosaLets start using "signers" or "signed-on folks" since its our informal language were talking about.
Andre, who is new, likes the term "participants."
DecisionWe will use "signers," "signed-on folks," and "signed-on people" to refer to Associates and Equity members. Other terms to be determined later.
Kim shared her research about touring Alchemy Farms and Island CoHo. \She asked people how they feel about touring Cambridge CoHo and Corner Stone in June. The group would like to tour both, and is comfortable taking a tour along with other people from the general public. John would like to know if there will be enough hosts available to answer our questions.
Roxanne wonders if the height of the touring season will present ferry problems for the Island CoHo tour.
StephWe need to think about how to integrate new comers along on tours and to balance that with holding a general meeting afterwards.
Catyadoesnt think we should have a GM after the tour.
Land/Site:
CSH is focusing on developing a relationship with a developer in Maynard. This developer would like to liquidate property in Maynard and is interested in working with CSH and us to identify potential properties.
John reports that CSH in conjunction with members of the group is researching sewage and 40B-related questions on the Lincoln property, however, he would like to prioritize his work with this developer.
GregFeels strongly that CSH should not let the Lincoln property go prematurely and that we shouldnt put all of our energy into Maynard; hears that this developer will not cut us any financial slack.
CatyaMeetings with CSH should be discussed with everyone; not just for Land Site. Even a friendly 40b is a big pain and we should think about that as we look at different towns.
Roxanne40b drawbacks include heavy expenses and having to open it up to a lottery system.
AbbyWhat is the number 20 units based on and where does it come from?
KimRosa and I hope to learn more about this at the 40b seminar.
Gregsuggests that LandSite follow up on these issues this week. Specifically on septic and 40b.
Orange card to Jim and Abby for their research on septic issues.
Gregfrustrated that we spent 25 minutes on other matters and just 15 minutes on land site when we had a lot of important things to discuss.
DwightWe need to address these issues when San puts the agenda together.
KimI think the problem is that the land site notes didnt get posted to the members list.
Gregfeels we need to focus on things that are more important.
CatyaCan someone on land site take responsibility to do a summary to the general list so people know whats going on prior to a GM?
Dwight-the agenda should be objected to next time if theres not enough time given for the content you want to discuss.
CatyaIt may make sense to just allot more time at every meeting for land site.
Abby-Lets put land site first on the agenda.
CatyaJust because something is first doesnt make it more or less important. We need to give it enough time, not just change its location on the agenda.
Proposed agenda change to insert 14 between 11 and 12, and move 10 to later in the agenda.
SarahWeve cut a lot of people off during this meeting.
GregWas I too vehement in my statement earlier? If so, I apologize, but Im feeling concerned and have a lot of anxiety.
CatyaReminder to talk about where theyre coming from when people share their comments.
JudyTry not to repeat things that have already been said; try to be brief.
AbbyI put my cards up and wasnt recognized; and then it sounded like people were jumping in and so I did too.
Bennoticed a lack of communication which was inadvertent and that some people on land site didnt realize the hot topics we had and for new people to point out.
A decision was made to change Hot Topics to the issues that came up today about how land site issues are handled and where they are put on the agenda.
Kimfrustrated b/c we are waiting on a lot of information around 40b stuff and feels that that is where some of the groups frustration may be coming from.
Judythinks part of our frustration is that Jim came up with the sewer info so quickly and CSH hasnt been able to find it after 3 weeks.
Catyatalked about where the number of units (20) came from; thats the number our most informed source on the Lincoln property provided.
RoxanneHas CSH met w/ planning people in Lincoln who would be able to tell us the number of units wed be able to put on the land in Lincoln?
JimWe could find out what the density is on existing 40B properties based on recent projects.
Rosa and Kim will try to find this out at the seminar.
Roxannewe do know what the standard residential zoning is.
DwightWhat happened to Jessica who was interested in doing research for us? Can we hire her?
GregShes not available right now.
AbbyTheres a lot we can do here and I want to be careful about how much we give to CSH.
JimJessica has an interest in another cohousing group, just FYI.
When do we delegate work to CSH? Developers dont want to work with a many headed monster; also we use CSH to make initial contact with property owners and developers. We can do work after a relationship is made.
JohnIs struggling with his role with respect to CSH. Is he meeting the groups expectations?
RosaSuggests that John post that question to the list since that may be a big discussion.
Decision from homeport meeting : Dave will work with John as liaison to Chris to complement his efforts.
StephEvidently the groups emotional state changed when Greg commented on his frustration with our land search.
Sarahfrustrated with communication during this meeting; finding it hard to keep track of all of the meetings we have that she is not directly involved in and suggests we need to be careful about forwarding meeting minutes.
DwightThere are ways to raise concerns without sounding so dark; I am concerned about the impact that sharing concerns creates.
DaveI think we hit our bottom about a month ago. In the last 2 months a bunch of people have recognized this hole and have stepped in to fill the gap. These are growing pains that were going to go through over and over. The way were handling things is good and is going to help us move ahead.
CatyaDuring team reports may be a good time to report when teams have met and what they discussed. Its important to remember that there are a lot of things getting done, but were no longer reporting it at meetings.
JudyI dont want to wait for a GM to hear a report from a team.
StephThis was not the first time Greg has raised concerns.
Decisionwhen a team meets, post a summary to the general list to keep people abreast of happenings, especially those around land site.
MartySearching for land is inherently frustration and scary.
CatyaIt would be useful to have a list of names of people, a whos who list for Mosaic Commons, esp. for new people.
Judy volunteered to create a Moco whos who list.
RosaLand is important but building community is too. We have struggled with balancing this as a group in the past and in Facilitation Team. I dont think spending time on how we talk about ourselves is a bad use of our time.
Judy-We can build community now, before we have land; thats what its all about.
KimI feel cmty is more important than finding land.
Affordability:
Kim and Rosa are going to a 40b seminar on Wednesday.
Finance:
Announces a new team member Sarah.
Sarahmake sure you check your statements when you write checks and adjust your payments to your reimbursements.
Coordinating
Nothing to report.
Marketing
Virginiawe need to have a meeting and need more volunteers.
Sarahwe now own the rights to our logo.
Catyathere was an article in the Boston Parents Paper and there was an article about us in it; grab it if you see it.
Kim was interviewed by the Boston Globe. The reporter would like to talk to other members.
CatyaPhrasing to the press suggestion"No members have left the group."
Christie--offered to make a video of the group for promo purposes.
Facilitation
Our idea is to have teams of people facilitate 2 meetings in a row; we are always open to comments and suggestions for other ways to facilitate the meeting.
StephWhen San posts the agenda on line, is that final? Or can we ask about adding an item?
RosaUsually its final, but were flexible.
Web Site
No updates.
Professionals
Catya spoke with Kelly about our cash flow questions and she is going to discuss it with CSH and get back to us.
Legal
DwightThis is the first anniversary of the LLC and we need to pay $500.00 to the Commonwealth for our renewal fee.
June 14th Social at Kai and Sans house in Cambridge.
June 16th Intro and GM.
July 7, 21
Drumlin Farm Island Coho or Drumlin Farm
CSH meetings: Saturday and Monday. CSH will meet with the aynard developer on Friday and will have more info to share with us. John will put up a poll to solidify times to meet with CSH. Meeting with CSH will happen at Sarahs in Watertown on Monday night.
Sept meetings will be the 3rd and 5th Sundays.
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