Minutes of Site Design Meeting: September 19, 2002
Prepared for Mosaic Commons
Cohousing by Kraus-Fitch Architects, Inc., Sept. 20, 2002
Introduction:
- Folks introduced themselves around the room
- Laura reviewed the agenda for the evening
- Laura reviewed where we had left off and what directions had
been followed in the preparation of schematic designs
- This is the first iteration of designs. Even if a clear direction
is chosen, the site plan will be modified as new site information becomes
available and common house and unit designs are developed.
- Two sites: Because there are two sites KFAs work is sketchier
than it might have been for only one site. This is in accordance with letter
of agreement for this work. The main elements are always included, but some
plans do not show all elements such as: hard surface play area, playing fields,
bike storage, quiet spots, overflow parking, spa, etc. These would be worked
in during design development phase.
- Maynard Site:
- Scheme A: Common House at West end of community layout.
- Scheme B: Common House at North side, central
- Stow site:
- Accuracy: After scanning small site plans onto computer,
Laura discovered that they do not fully correspond with each other. Therefore
KFA has little confidence in the accuracy of boundary lines, dimensions,
and orientation.
- Scheme A: Common House at SW, nodal pattern
- Scheme B: Common House at SW, linear pattern
- Goals for evening: Present plans, evaluate them, and choose
a direction for Maynard site. Laura and Mary do not recommend choosing a direction
for Stow until site information is more complete. They recommend simply taking
time to talk about pros and cons of each.
Maynard Site
- Mary presented both schemes
- Participants asked questions
- Pros and Cons: Participants decided to hear list of Pros and
Cons that Laura and Mary had prepared rather than brainstorm list themselves.
List follows:
Scheme A Pros:
- Good solar orientation
- 50% of units pass CH on way from parking
- CH in open area, houses in treed area (may allow for some saving
of existing trees fairly close to units)
- Good backyards for every unit
- Fairly accessible
- Less Asphalt than B (less cost, less maintenance of paths/roads)
- CH at end = less disruptive to community when there are events
in CH
- CH clearly visible upon arrival on site (good for visitors)
- Garden / CH connection
Scheme A Cons
- some units far from CH (approx. 340)
- 50% of units dont pass CH on way from parking (could move
more / all parking to west end)
- cars might sometimes be inside community (use emergency access
/ pedestrian way for deliveries)
- CH on one side, not central to everyone
- CH backside is most visible upon arrival (CH design could ameliorate
this)
Scheme B Pros:
- Good solar orientation
- CH centrally located
- Views of courtyard from in front of nearly every unit
- Small path for pedestrian way cozy, less road like
- 2 nice nodes
- 2 simple parking lots (easy to plow)
- overflow parking along emergency access road in back
- accessible from emergency access road to all north side units
- May be easier to save some of the existing trees in large "green"
area in front of CH
Scheme B Cons
- CH not clearly visible upon entry
- CH not on the way between parking and units
- More pavement (cost, maintenance)
- Events in CH might be more disrupting (people coming and going
from parking by units)
- Driving behind units / less back yards on north side
- Visitor parking and approach of CH is to back side of CH or
between units
- Gardens more distant from CH
- There was a very strong preference for Scheme A (13 for, 4
not objecting) and a small preference for B (3-4 for, 12 not objecting, one
objecting). There was a show of hands on how many people would be willing
to walk the distance (approx. 340) from units to CH. Many raised hands. It
was pointed out that this plan is similar to EcoVillage at Ithaca only shorter.
Catya asked that rather than further critiquing B, that we consider how we
might infuse Scheme A with some of the properties she and others like about
Scheme B. The following are some ideas:
- Consider all the carports on west end to encourage folks to
walk by CH
- Consider more parking at west end same reason
- Make "road" feel more "path-like"
- Make sure there are some units that are quite accessible (close
to parking), for sleeping baby phenomenon as well as wheelchairs.
- Consider infusing more distinct "nodes" along path
- Other points that Mary and Laura said they will look at:
- Move pedestrian way closer to north units to get more sun for
winter de-icing.
- Move carports off setback
- Hybrid scheme (CH at NW, a few units to West of it, short access
road to some parking at CH)
- Consensus Decision Continue with Scheme A with the understanding
that it will be refined and some / all of the suggestions considered in design
development.
Stow Site
- Laura presented both Schemes. Note: designs are for 28 units.
KFA did not want to attempt 35 units with so little site information.
- Participants asked questions
- Pros and Cons: Laura read the list that she and Mary had prepared.
List follows:
Both Schemes Pros
- 2/3 of units pass CH on way from parking
- CH / Courtyard / Pond connection
- CH central
- Backyards pretty good for all units
- Courtyard on east of CH (summer evening shade) with opening
to south (winter sun)
Both Schemes Cons:
- courtyard not visible from all units
Scheme A Pros:
- more "social" more nodal
- efficient emergency access loop
- narrower paths into nodes
- CH more visible upon entry
Scheme A Cons:
- less solar access for units and common house
- some units at distance from parking
- no "green" developed at this point
- less accessible for deliveries (paths to nodes)
Scheme B Pros:
- good solar orientation of units and CH
- green location (south of CH, noise away from units, visible
from courtyard)
Scheme B Cons:
- North side of Common House along pedestrian way (could be nice
shade garden)
- units at different sides look at different ends of CH (not
always the front)
- Participants seemed to like both schemes quite a bit, and without
strong preference. It was generally felt that Scheme A could be adjusted for
better solar, while Scheme B could be adjusted to be more nodal. There was
some fairly strong preference to certain elements:
- green in scheme B
- efficient emergency access in scheme A
- cohesiveness of A (NW corner of B too far out)
- CH wrap around porch connecting to both sides of community.
Feasibility Study on Stow Site:
The group spent the left over time discussing a feasibility study
on Stow Site. The decision was recorded by Christie.
The meeting was adjourned. If you have any changes to be made
to these minutes, please provide them in writing to Kraus-Fitch Architects.
Respectfully Submitted,
Laura Fitch, principal architect
Kraus-Fitch Architects, Inc.
Cc: Chris ScottHanson