Back MosaicMinutes of Mosaic Commons General Meeting
Sunday, November 3, 2002, 3:30-6:30pm

 

Present: Linda Wheeler, Roxanne Theimer, Ken Porter, Liz Magill, Joan Labbe, Aileen Genovese, Debbie Page, Rosa Carson, Jenn Cartee, Judy Dempewolfe, Kim Shute, Maura Johnson, Susan Douglass, Jim Guiness, Richard Osborne, Jeff Benskin, Francesca Holinke, Cathy Lee, Sarah Florreich, Jen Wiley-Cordone, Geoff Dutton, San Tunstall, Kai von Fintel, Emma Tunstall, Pascal von Fintel, Greg Hellyer, John Rosevear, Diana Carroll, Catya Belfer-Shevett, Dave Belfer-Shevett, Christie White, Keith Pangman, Betsy Waters
Location: Parmenter, Wayland
Facilitator:  
Notes: Christie

Decisions:

The site workshop will be held at the Assabet Valley Family Network in Marlborough

Action Items:

# Team Person Open Date Description
1 Coordinating Catya 10/20/2002 Make a poster explaining the color cards for the wall
2 Coordinating Catya 11/3/2002 Buy more name tags (sounds like we could use them for the kids too)
3 Coordinating Catya 11/3/2002 Ask Mary & Laura for info on how they use that visual distinction
4 Coordinating Dave 10/20/2002 Bring more extension cords to the meeting (to cover crockpots and computers)
5 Coordinating Joan 11/3/2002 Bring up alternate childcare space on email list
6 Coordinating Joan 11/3/2002 email New View that we found a meeting place for the workshop
7 Coordinating Kai 5/19/2002 Research on handling solicitation from outside our community
8 Coordinating Kim 11/3/2002 Follow up with Assabet on the workshop
9 Coordinating Rosa 11/3/2002 Take equity/associate workshop distinction to the email list
10 Coordinating Roxanne 11/3/2002 Bring paper goods to the next meeting as Jen will not be here
11 Coordinating San 2/17/2002 Write up more thorough description of schedule coordinator
12 Coordinating San 2/17/2002 Add implementation notes to mentor system
13 Coordinating Team 8/18/2002 Schedule a financial structure overview, as we give in the intro meeting, for the general meeting.
14 CR Roxanne 9/29/2002 Schedule full day conflict resolution workshop.
15 Finance All 5% equity households 10/20/2002 All households that have met their 5% equity payments go to DCU.org website and do the pre-approval mortgage letters and submit them to the finance team
16 Finance Catya 4/21/2002 Sliding Scale revisions - still on hold
17 Finance Kai 11/4/2001 Come up with a 'possible sources of money' sort of survey / worksheet for folks to work though.
18 Finance Peter 10/20/2002 Write a promissory note for Mosaic Commons specifically based on the promissory note template that the finance team has
19 Finance Sarah 9/29/2002 Find an accountant and file our 2001 LLC taxes. - Found an accountant. Will be sending stuff to him next week.
20 Legal Dwight, Kai 9/29/2002 Finalize operating agreement between equity partners - draft currently under review at Finance and Coordinating Teams.
21 Marketing JohnR 11/3/2002 Helping with the next intro meeting
22 Marketing Kim, Kai 11/3/2002 Do the January intro meeting (Cat not here)
23 Marketing Rosa 8/19/2001 Make a note in the decision log about becoming an associate and and equity member on the same day. - ongoing
24 Membership All 7/7/2002 Send songs to be included in the songbook to Ben & Christie
25 Membership Aygul 10/20/2002 Work on creating a database of food preferences and allergies for the group
26 Membership Judy 10/20/2002 Get Geoff & Aygul a mentor
27 Membership Judy, Catya 3/17/2002 Database of mentors/mentees on website 4/5 - Provided update to list, along with list of mentors/mentees. Needs help creating database.
28 Membership Kai 7/7/2002 Research legal issue on solicitation and evangelism
29 Membership Open 7/7/2002 Evangelism policy
30 Membership Sarah 8/18/2002 Write proposal for member changing unit size - in progress
31 Professionals Ken 9/20/2002 Take digital photos of the site plans
32 Professionals Steph 9/20/2002 Scan 8.5x11 site plan pictures
33 Secretary Christie 11/3/2002 finish doing the meeting folders
34 Secretary Judy 6/2/2002 Whos-who contact list? - I'm not sure what this means. I thought I was supposed to do a list of terms that new members didn't know. On that front I have compiled a list, but need to run it by people to see if they can add to it.
35 Secretary San 12/2/2001 Add names of previous members to members database
36 Website Catya   2 new faq questions SVS connection and child friendliness. 6/2/02 - Both items sent to the list
37 Website Catya 11/3/2002 Add Jen to the members email list
38 Website Catya 11/3/2002 Add articles to the website
39 Website Ken 10/20/2002 Email / Netiquette Guideline
Ongoing Items
40 Coordinating Jen 3/3/2002 bring bag of paper goods to meeting
41 Coordinating Kai 6/3/2001 Write up examples of the items we need to have included in the Operating Agreement for our group to review
42 Coordinating Liz 11/4/2001 Coordinate babysitting for future meetings
43 Coordinating Open 8/4/2002 Action Item Manager - Post done items to the list as part of the regular reports
44 Marketing Christie 6/2/2002 Video possibilities? - I have started taping and will continue to tape clips over the next 6 months or so. End products: short MoC promo video (10 min), and Quick time clips for web site.
45 Membership Ben, Christie 3/3/2002 Create a Mosaic Commons song book - Songs are trickling in. Our plan is to learn a few at a time, or find others who already can lead them, and begin using them as icebreakers during meetings ASAP. I will be ready to begin in Sept, I think.
46 Membership Joan 2/3/2002 Follow up calls for intro meeting
47 Membership Judy 9/29/2002 ensure that all associates have mentors
48 Membership Steph 8/5/2001 Put together a 'members handbook' for new people 10/21 Talk to christie and judy about helping out.

Discussion:

1. Opening Activity: "What is your favorite movie?"

2. Review of colored cards and ground rules

Rosa discussed the purpose of the Yellow Card. It literally means, "I have a question or need clarification." It has been brought to my attention that some people are using this card to slip in a comment phrased in the form of a question. This is not going to happen anymore." (Laughs).

3. Announcements and approval of agenda

Agenda approved w/ moving item 13 to before break; we will need hold off #9 as we are missing the draft copy of the Ongoing Participation Guidelines.

4. Review and appro ve minutes from previous meeting

Minutes of last GM approved.

5. Action Items — Catya, Joan

Catya will hold on to the AI job for now. She is working on developing a higher tech, lower labor-intensive way of tracking AIs (with Dave’s help) to make it easier for the next person to take over this job.

Roxanne will take responsibility for Paper Goods Bag for the next meeting.

6. Operating Agreement — Kai

Kai–When we formed our group we began writing an Operating Agreement which we need to have legally. This document will lay out the way we want this organization to work. A draft has been floated by the members of the Finance Team. We are asking that this draft be reviewed by signed-on folks who can stand looking at such a document and that the discussion be held on-line. Kai will post the draft on line early this week. Catya–Made distinction between our internal policy manual versus the Operating Agreement, which needs to be done sooner for legal purposes.

7. Land/Site Report — Kim

Kim–Jonathan has reviewed the town by-laws and zoning and he has discovered the only way to apply for a comprehensive permit for this land is through either a 40B application or through a town meeting (vote) (Either way could give us a comprehensive permit, which is what we are ultimately looking for, however, there are pros and cons to each strategy). We have heard the town will probably not exercise their Chapter 61 rights on this property. Michael Feeley has provided our professionals with info on a project in Stow that uses an alternative septic system (a big potential hurdle for our project which now apparently has a precedent ). We are about half-way through our feasibility period. We have a meeting with CSH on the 11th. We have 2 visits scheduled this month and Kim is arranging to get permission to go into the buildings.

8. Bios Exercise — Diana, Cathy

These bios are already on the web.

13. Team/Committee Reports

Quick Updates from:

Coordinating–Working on arranging food and childcare on line. Will let people know about homework for the workshop.

Facilitation–Working on facilitator hats. We have new descriptions of the cards on the wall. (Thanks, Catya)

Conflict Resolution–No report.

Finance–Working on who has given pre-qualification reports to the FT.

Membership–If you don’t have a mentor talk to Judy.

Marketing–There was an article in the Stow paper. A reporter from the Globe has been talking to various people in the group. It sounds not unfavorable, so far (fingers crossed). They took Kai and San’s picture!

Website–Can we link the newspaper articles to our web site? We will need to consider copyright permission.

Diversity–There’s be en more discussion on the list about how to increase our ethnic diversity. We could use someone who is interested in helping us market to people of color.

Affordability–Following up with some leads.

Green–No report.

Professionals–We have the official signed version of our contract with CR. We do not need a contract from Mary and Laura as we are under Contract Management now and CR will be hiring them.

Legal–No report.

[9. Ongoing Participation Guidelines: Final Draft — Cat or San]

Not discussed.

** BREAK around 5:00 pm

10. And now…: Secret Mystery Personal Factoid — Kim, Rick

11. Process Check-in

Catya–The "Visitor" badges are borrowed; we actually like to think of new people as "Newcomers," not "Visitors."

12. Site Workshop: Equity/Associate Distinction? — Catya

San–We’re going to spend a fair amount of time at the next meeting reviewing the last workshop and how that went. For new associates, there will not be a lot of decision making that will happen. We will just be working with more updated maps of the site.

Catya–Background–We‘ve done a site workshop already with our architects. We have received recommendations from our professionals to make a visual distinction between Associates and Equity members in order for them to know how heavily to weigh the input of people’s comments. At the last workshop we did not make such a decision bc of our relationships with our associates, that they have historically phrased their remarks in a way that recognizes their reduced financial investment at this point. At this time, we would like to try making a visual distinction between people at this coming workshop and then review how that went afterwards. Just so you all know, when we discussed this the last time, I felt strongly that we should have made this distinction before.

Go-Around:

Rosa–Mixed feelings; I am an associate who is very invested in this project and its hard to feel like my input is being less considered than others, even tho I understand the reasoning behind it. I think it might be worth giving it a try.

Kim–Difficult for me bc I felt like we should not make this distinction at all. Since the last workshop, I feel on the fence about it now. Part of the reason is that I’m not sure were addressing the right question, yet I’m not sure what that question is. I don’t want people who are fly-by-nights to have as much air time as people who are more invested.

Steph and Dwight (Statement read by Sarah)–Support a distinction (see post on line)

Sarah–Doesn’t want a distinction. Does want less input from those who are less invested, but how do we make that distinction? If architects focus on the Equities, that might alienate Associates.

Jen–I’m an associate and I knew what I was getting into when we decided earlier to not become an Equity members; doesn’t mind having the distinction.

John R–I think tha t if your idea is a good one, it will find its own support.

Diana–I’m with the separation among members bc once I do put my money down I’m going to feel more invested. My concern is, what does "give more weight to" our comments mean? Mary and Laura do not know us and are not involved in the day to day running of this group. I would feel better if I knew that the Equity members were watching out for the Associates at the workshop. Catya–When we talked about this the first time around my concern was that our professionals suggested this to us, and we have hired them for their expertise, but I felt our reaction was knee-jerk. At the last workshop, there were people who were unprepared, and people who spent a lot of time representing their own individual concerns instead of group level concerns, and most of those people were associates.

Dave–Two points: Missed #1. #2: Were trying to make a distinction btwn people that’s really hard to classify. The only place we can really draw a line is between Associates and Equity members.

Linda–Associate. Lately there are a lot of people attending meetings, and I think as we grow it will be more important to make distinctions between people who are more or less invested. Why not get ourselves used to making these distinctions now? Roxanne–I’d like to see how the distinction will work. I don’t think the Equity members will allow a committed associate to go unheard.

Betsy–Prospective. A short questionnaire for bf and after could allow you to look at more data.

Ken–In favor of distinction bc Mary and Laura suggested it and bc I am not worried that it might in any way chill or silence associates.

Liz–This seems totally logical to me to make this distinction. Joan–I’m an associate and I’m worried about feeling silenced or passed over. I am committed to this group and see myself living here.

Lisa–Associate. Mixed feelings. What ev eryone has to say is important. I have been so enriched by hearing so many great ideas from many people. I trust the group process, and I hope that we would consense on anything significant, and do not want to let Mary and Laura make decisions for us.

Lawyer in Green Shirt [Sorry, missed your name! --Sec.] Prospective–Eventually those who are Associates are going to need to be distinct.

Judy–Equity. We tried it one way. Some people were not totally happy about how things went. If we have hired Mary and Laura to facilitate this process, we need to let go of that role in order to throw ourselves into the content more fully. Let’s try it a different way and then re-consider.

Susan–It seems like a trust issue. I wonder if some anxiety could be alleviated if Associates have a mentor who is an Equity member who is looking out for their interests at the workshop. Rick–Liked what Diana and Roxanne said. Changing role of Associate members as we move forward. As we go forward the role of Associates is going to start changing. We’re checking each other out and it’s getting more intense. I quit, I don’t know where I’m going. It’s not just Mary and Laura’s opinion, CSH also brought it up. He said the equity members need a stronger way to say yes in group decisions. I am one of those people who did not prepare well, and I probably shouldn’t have participated in the last workshop. We all have a responsibility to come prepared. Jeff–You’d hate to feel that there is some sort of pecking order established with your future neighbors and to have resentments as a result of decisions that some people feel weren’t made by the whole group.

Cathy–I feel like I’m being picked on for something that somebody else did. I don’t have an objection to being labeled an Associate but I do have one against being blamed for something I didn’t do.

Geoff–There aren’t really any decisions, just a lot of input. I think anything that is contentious is going to be reopened. I have a degree in land planning, and this business can get really messy. So far, this process looks pretty streamlined compared to the things I’ve seen.

San–I had a lot of trouble at the last workshop, but we don’t want to be more specific bc that would involve naming people’s names. There were points that were made again and again by the same people that we didn’t need to keep hearing. There are associates who have become involved who have had input into our decisions and policies and then they have left. These decisions are really important, and are going to affect everything else from here on out.

Kai–I have changed my mind on how I feel about this. We went against our professionals advice and I feel it was a mistake. There were Equity members whose voices were not heard bc there were associates who monopolized the discussion who are now no longer involved in the group. We need Mary and Laura to facilitate. I want to hear the opinions of the people I’m going to be living with, and I want to hear Equity’s opinions. Associates are going to come and go, but I want to make sure I hear what Equity’s want to say.

Greg–Equity member. I was happy with the outcome but I do there were some problems. I am confident in Mary and Laura. I favor the distinction. Even tho I’m an Equity member, I still regard myself as being a new member who has not made a huge investment financially.

Rosa–Let’s take this discussion to the list and we’ll make a decision at the next meeting.

14. Review/Establish time, place, agenda items for next meeting and social event

— General Meetings: 11/17, 12/1. 12/15, 1/?, 1/? — Intro Meetings:

11/17, 11/23 and 11/24 (Signed on Folks only–Assabet Valley Family Network), 1 2/15, 1/?

— CSH (SOF’s only): 11/11

— Socials (open to All): Catya will be belly dancing Tuesday, December 10th. Catya would like to consider having a dinner beforehand but will not be able to host it as she will be preparing for the event. Is someone interested in hosting this?


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